{"id":190,"date":"2012-03-31T15:32:26","date_gmt":"2012-03-31T15:32:26","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/truthlifelight.wordpress.com\/?p=190"},"modified":"2022-04-05T12:01:11","modified_gmt":"2022-04-05T12:01:11","slug":"can-a-girl-propose-to-a-guy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/sunesishq.com\/notes\/can-a-girl-propose-to-a-guy\/","title":{"rendered":"Can a girl propose to a guy?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align:justify;background:#f5faf0;\"><span style=\"color:black;font-family:Arial;\">Dear Beloved, for the purpose of this discussion, please set aside our traditions and let us critically consider&nbsp;this question using&nbsp;only the scriptures as our tool to answer this question. Traditions are good but if we are overly taken by them, they can make the word of God of non-effect in our lives and reasoning. Let us begin.<br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align:justify;background:#f5faf0;\"><span style=\"color:black;font-family:Arial;\">It is always intriguing for me that when this subject comes up and I see people quoting, &#8220;\u2026he that finds a wife finds a good thing\u2026&#8221;(Pro 18:22) and they use this as justification that it is the man that has to do the proposal. That scripture does not say &#8220;he that finds a wife does the proposing&#8221;. It does not say a man&nbsp;<strong>must&nbsp;<\/strong>do the proposing. Those from&nbsp;<span style=\"text-decoration:underline;\">cultures<\/span>&nbsp;where males predominantly propose are more disposed with going with this verse whereas those from&nbsp;<span style=\"text-decoration:underline;\">cultures<\/span>&nbsp;where females do the proposal like in&nbsp;<span style=\"background-color:white;\">Orango Island (Guinea-Bissau)<\/span>&nbsp;and certain Indian casts may go with scriptures like:<br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align:justify;background:#f5faf0;margin-left:13pt;\"><span style=\"font-family:Arial;\"><span style=\"color:teal;\">Jer 31:22<\/span><span style=\"color:#333333;\">&nbsp; How long will you waver and hesitate [<\/span><em>to return<\/em><span style=\"color:#333333;\">], O you backsliding daughter? For the Lord has created a new thing in the land [<\/span><em>of Israel<\/em><span style=\"color:#333333;\">]:&nbsp;<span style=\"text-decoration:underline;\">a female shall&nbsp;<\/span><\/span><span style=\"text-decoration:underline;\"><span style=\"color:black;\">compass<\/span><span style=\"color:#333333;\">&nbsp;<strong>(<\/strong><\/span><span style=\"color:#1f497d;\"><strong>woo, win, and<\/strong>&nbsp;<strong>protect<\/strong><\/span><\/span><span style=\"color:#333333;\"><span style=\"text-decoration:underline;\"><strong>)<\/strong>&nbsp;a man<\/span>. AMPLIFIED BIBLE<br \/>\n<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align:justify;background:#f5faf0;\"><span style=\"font-family:Arial;\"><span style=\"color:#333333;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"color:black;\">This is the new thing God did in Israel. But here also it does not say a woman does the proposing only that she woos or wins the man. In a different scenario, Jesus&#8217; great grandmother Ruth said the following:<\/span><span style=\"color:#333333;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align:justify;background:#f5faf0;margin-left:13pt;\"><span style=\"font-family:Arial;\"><span style=\"color:teal;\">Rth 3:9<\/span><span style=\"color:#333333;\">&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"color:teal;\">(9)<\/span><span style=\"color:#333333;\">&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"color:black;\">And he said, Who are you? And she answered, I am Ruth your maidservant.&nbsp;<strong>Spread your wing [<em>of protection<\/em>] over your maidservant, for you are a next of kin<\/strong>.<\/span><span style=\"color:#333333;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align:justify;background:#f5faf0;\"><span style=\"font-family:Arial;\"><span style=\"color:black;\">In those days, spread your wing over me was tantamount to saying, &#8220;marry me and become my covering.&#8221; Here is the only place where a woman clearly proposes in scripture but it&#8217;s the exception and not the rule. Some may think what Ruth did was &#8220;begging&#8221;. I beg to differ. She was simply being humble and stating her need based on advise from Naomi. The results was that a moabitess (formerly cursed as a result of coming from an incest relationship) became the great great gradma of Jesus. Does this mean I am justifying that women should propose?<\/span><span style=\"color:#333333;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align:justify;background:#f5faf0;\"><span style=\"font-family:Arial;\"><span style=\"color:black;\">Personally I am not for or against a woman proposing. The choice is left to the lady. <strong>When a matter does not clearly contradict scripture, then the choice is ours to make<\/strong>. I think ladies like Ruth who do it in today&#8217;s world must not be castigated for following their hearts when they have not clearly contradicted the testimony of scripture. Proposal is a private thing between the two people and not their families. Asking for a hand though is between the two families. In Ruth&#8217;s case, Ruth expressed her interest but Boaz approached the family as if he was the initiator. He did not go and say, she has expressed interest in me so I have come.<\/span><span style=\"color:#333333;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"background:#f5faf0;\"><span style=\"font-family:Arial;\"><span style=\"color:#333333;\">&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"color:black;\">The problem surfaces when the man to whom the woman proposed turns out to be a nepios Christian and hence brags about this. In Ruth&#8217;s case, this was not so.<\/span><span style=\"color:#333333;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align:center;background:#f5faf0;\"><span style=\"font-family:Arial;\"><span style=\"color:black;\"><strong>If a woman chooses to propose, how does she do it?<\/strong><\/span><span style=\"color:#333333;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align:justify;background:#f5faf0;\"><span style=\"font-family:Arial;\"><span style=\"color:teal;\">Rth 3:7-9<\/span><span style=\"color:#333333;\">&nbsp; And when Boaz&nbsp;<span style=\"text-decoration:underline;\">had eaten and drunk and his heart was merry<\/span>, he went to lie down at the end of the heap of grain. Then [<\/span><em>Ruth<\/em><span style=\"color:#333333;\">] came&nbsp;<span style=\"text-decoration:underline;\">softly and uncovered his feet<\/span>&nbsp;and lay down.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"color:teal;\">(8)<\/span><span style=\"color:#333333;\">&nbsp; At midnight the man was startled, and he turned over, and behold, a woman lay at his feet!<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align:justify;background:#f5faf0;\"><span style=\"font-family:Arial;\"><span style=\"color:black;\">I do not know process-wise how a sister should propose. For that we need Naomi&nbsp;<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/truthlifelight.files.wordpress.com\/2012\/03\/033112_1532_canagirlpro1.gif\" alt=\"\">. We are not Israelites so we cannot do exactly what Ruth did but we can take lessons from her. First the Brother should be a fellow believer. It helps to have the same value system. Second, if a sister were to ever make such a move, do it when the brother is in high spirits. For Boaz it was when he&nbsp;<span style=\"text-decoration:underline;\">had eaten and drunk and his heart was&nbsp;<strong>merry<\/strong><\/span>. Secondly, show him that you are marriageable material. Where she lay in relation to him showed him her willingness to submit to his headship and covering. Or instead of proposing directly, just drop hints of your interest and hope he catches on.<\/span><span style=\"color:#333333;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align:justify;background:#f5faf0;\"><span style=\"font-family:Arial;\"><span style=\"color:black;\">But as I said, this is the exception, not the rule. So if any sister chooses to do this, be sure you are led by God and the Brother is mature enough not to take it the wrong way.<\/span><span style=\"color:#333333;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align:justify;background:#f5faf0;\"><span style=\"font-family:Arial;\"><span style=\"color:black;\">Here is a fun article for anyone interested about female proposals: <\/span><span style=\"color:#355491;\">http:\/\/www.cbsnews.com\/2100-202_162-2425356.html<\/span><span style=\"color:#333333;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align:justify;background:#f5faf0;\"><span style=\"font-family:Arial;\"><span style=\"color:black;\"><strong>PS:<\/strong><\/span><span style=\"color:#333333;\"> We have possibly millions of Christian sisters whose families by tradition pay the bride price or dowry to the male and his family in places like India. Is this a negative thing? If not, then maybe this issue is merely tradition\/customs dependent and not scripture dependent. And we should see it as such.&nbsp; Y&#8217;know partly because of the unholistic way we as a world look at the sexes sometimes, untold millions of baby girls have been killed in places India and China because the families prefer male children instead. In the case of India, it is so that the family would not have to pay out gold and other things to some man&#8217;s family later in life as dowry. Isn&#8217;t it about time, we all as a world change our mindsets?<br \/>\n<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Dear Beloved, for the purpose of this discussion, please set aside our traditions and let us critically consider&nbsp;this question using&nbsp;only the scriptures as our tool&hellip; <\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":1483,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[3],"tags":[39,201,210],"class_list":["post-190","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-faith-formation","tag-asking-her-hand-in-marriage","tag-love","tag-marriage-proposal"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.0 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Can a girl propose to a guy? | SUNESIS NOTES<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Dear Beloved, for the purpose of this discussion, please set aside our traditions and let us critically consider&nbsp;this question using&nbsp;only the\" \/>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/sunesishq.com\/notes\/can-a-girl-propose-to-a-guy\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Can a girl propose to a guy? 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