{"id":82,"date":"2012-02-23T22:43:29","date_gmt":"2012-02-23T22:43:29","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/truthlifelight.wordpress.com\/?p=82"},"modified":"2022-09-03T11:43:08","modified_gmt":"2022-09-03T11:43:08","slug":"does-god-exist-does-science-prove-this-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/sunesishq.com\/notes\/does-god-exist-does-science-prove-this-2\/","title":{"rendered":"Does God exist? Does science prove this?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><span style=\"color: black;\">Today, I would like to comment on the question somebody asked. They wanted to know if God existed and how can that existence be proved. They wanted to know if it could be proved through science. The following is an attempt to answer at least some of the above. First let look at the relationship between science and God\u2026<\/span><span style=\"color: #333333;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"color: black;\">Concerning Science and the bible, the two are not at odds as most people think. Science and discovery is simply mans attempt to (un)<\/span><span style=\"color: red;\">cover<\/span><span style=\"color: #333333;\">\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"color: black;\">or (dis)<\/span><span style=\"color: red;\">cover<\/span><span style=\"color: #333333;\">\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"color: black;\">the workings of the universe. The fact that it&#8217;s a discovery is an admission that what was discovered by scientists was always there but covered. They did not create. They just uncovered what someone else had created. Science just made a\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"color: red;\">dis<\/span><span style=\"color: #00b050;\">cover<\/span><span style=\"color: black;\">y. In other words God has created everything but he did not tell how everything works. This is what we call a mystery. A mystery is something covered. Science is mans attempt to uncover the mysteries of God about the workings of the universe. This is how the scriptures put it in the book of Proverbs 25:2&#8230;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify; margin-left: 36pt;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/nlt.scripturetext.com\/proverbs\/25.htm\"><span style=\"color: #99d6ff; font-size: 12pt; background-color: #f9fdff;\"><strong>New Living Translation<\/strong><\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #333333;\">\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"color: #0092f2; background-color: #f9fdff;\">(\u00a92007)<\/span><\/strong><span style=\"color: #001320;\"><br \/>\n<span style=\"background-color: #f9fdff;\">It is God&#8217;s privilege to conceal things and the king&#8217;s privilege to discover them.<\/span><\/span><span style=\"color: #333333;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify; margin-left: 36pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><span style=\"color: #001320; background-color: #f9fdff;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"color: #0092f2; background-color: #f9fdff;\"><strong>King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)<\/strong><\/span><span style=\"color: #333333;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify; margin-left: 36pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><span style=\"color: #001320;\"><span style=\"background-color: #f9fdff;\"><em>It is<\/em><\/span>\u00a0<span style=\"background-color: #f9fdff;\">the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings\u00a0<\/span><em>is<\/em>\u00a0to search out a matter.<\/span><span style=\"color: #333333;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify; margin-left: 36pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><span style=\"color: teal;\">Pro 25:2<\/span><span style=\"color: #333333;\">\u00a0 It is the glory of God to conceal a thing, but the glory of kings is to search out a thing. [<\/span><span style=\"color: gray;\"><em>Deut. 29:29; Rom. 11:33.<\/em><\/span><span style=\"color: #333333;\">]<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><span style=\"color: black;\">So God does not mind men seeking out how His universe works. Infact, most of what we learn in science is confirmed first by scripture. The rest of science is theories which are called so because they are not facts. They cannot be proven hence we cannot consider them to be truth. Truth is only what he scripture gives us. A simple example is the bible always stated that the earth was round or a circular space but for years men and scientists thought it was flat until the bible was proven true. There are many other such stories but this is not the question under inspection. All I wanted to show you is that science does not and cannot prove God or his Word. Rather it&#8217;s the opposite. It the Word that is proof or disproof of what science (dis)covers. The superior is the Word. Why? Because all things were made through Him and without him nothing was made that has been made<\/span><span style=\"color: #333333;\">\u00a0(John 1:3).\u00a0 As Isa 29:16 tells us, &#8220;Shall what is formed say to him who formed it, &#8220;He did not make me&#8221;? Can the pot say of the potter, &#8220;He knows nothing&#8221;? Does a jar ever say, &#8220;The potter who made me is stupid&#8221;?&#8221;. Obviously not! God is not proved by us. It&#8217;s the other way round. Nevertheless, in His mercy he has given us nuggets that could help us understand who he is and to understand his attributes.<br \/>\n<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><span style=\"color: black;\">There a couple of ways to come to understand God. First is through creation. That is what our forefathers who did not have the scriptures did. Paul says\u2026<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify; margin-left: 36pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><span style=\"color: teal;\">Rom 1:19-21<\/span><span style=\"color: #333333;\">\u00a0For that which is known about God is evident to them and made plain in their inner consciousness, because God [<\/span><span style=\"color: gray;\"><em>Himself<\/em><\/span><span style=\"color: #333333;\">] has shown it to them.\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"color: teal;\">(20)<\/span><span style=\"color: #333333;\">\u00a0 For ever since the creation of the world His invisible nature and attributes, that is, His eternal power and divinity,\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"color: red;\">have been made intelligible and clearly discernible in and through the things that have been made<\/span><span style=\"color: #333333;\">\u00a0(His handiworks). So [<\/span><span style=\"color: gray;\"><em>men<\/em><\/span><span style=\"color: #333333;\">] are without excuse [<\/span><span style=\"color: gray;\"><em>altogether without any defense or justification<\/em><\/span><span style=\"color: #333333;\">], [<\/span><span style=\"color: gray;\"><em>Ps. 19: 1-4.<\/em><\/span><span style=\"color: #333333;\">]\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"color: teal;\">(21)<\/span><span style=\"color: #333333;\">\u00a0Because when they knew and recognized Him as God, they did not honor and glorify Him as God or give Him thanks. But instead they became futile and godless in their thinking [<\/span><span style=\"color: gray;\"><em>with vain imaginings, foolish reasoning, and stupid speculations<\/em><\/span><span style=\"color: #333333;\">] and their senseless minds were darkened.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><span style=\"color: black;\">That means that those who were had the scriptures and never had a preacher preach to them have no excuse. God revealed his nature and what may be know about himself to them through what he has made i.e. his creation. So all who have sinned without the Law will also perish without [regard to] the Law, and all who have sinned under the Law will be judged and condemned by the Law (Rom 2:12).\u00a0 We do not fall into the category of the group who do not have the Word available to us. We are those who were born in a day when the Word is available and we can all read and go to church and listen to the Word of God. We are born at a time when God has given us the Holy Spirit to teach us all things so for us, we get our knowledge of God from His Word.\u00a0 But let me give a word of caution:<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><span style=\"color: #001320; background-color: #f9fdff;\">And\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"color: red; background-color: #f9fdff;\">without faith it is impossible to please God<\/span><span style=\"color: #001320; background-color: #f9fdff;\">, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him (Heb 11:6).<\/span><span style=\"color: #333333;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify; margin-left: 36pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><span style=\"color: teal; background-color: #f9fdff;\">Rom 1:17<\/span><span style=\"color: #001320; background-color: #f9fdff;\">\u00a0 For in the Gospel a righteousness which God ascribes is revealed, both springing\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"color: red; background-color: #f9fdff;\">from faith<\/span><span style=\"color: #001320; background-color: #f9fdff;\">and<\/span><span style=\"color: red; background-color: #f9fdff;\">leading to faith<\/span><span style=\"color: #001320; background-color: #f9fdff;\">\u00a0[<\/span><span style=\"color: gray; background-color: #f9fdff;\"><em>disclosed through the way of faith that arouses to more faith<\/em><\/span><span style=\"color: #001320; background-color: #f9fdff;\">]. As it is written, The man who through faith is just and upright\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"color: red; background-color: #f9fdff;\">shall live and shall live by faith<\/span><span style=\"color: #001320; background-color: #f9fdff;\">. [<\/span><span style=\"color: gray; background-color: #f9fdff;\"><em>Hab. 2:4.<\/em><\/span><span style=\"color: #001320; background-color: #f9fdff;\">]<\/span><span style=\"color: #333333;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\u00a0<span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">You cannot understand God or anything about Him without faith. SO if you elevate science which is inferior to faith in God and His Word, you cannot understand God or His ways. The recipe is &#8220;faith in God first&#8221;. If you hold a pen in you hand which to your eyes look red BUT the bible says its green. Then Wisdom is to go with the Word instead of your sensory perception. This is the secret to true success that has no sorrow added to it. Hab 2:4 and Heb 10:30 confirm that we live in God&#8217;s Kingdom by faith and not by sensory perception.<\/span><\/p>\n<h2><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">SO who created God? Where did he come from? Does he exist?<span style=\"color: #333333;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/span><\/h2>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify; margin-left: 46pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong><span style=\"color: black;\">Without father or mother,<\/span><span style=\"color: #333333;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/strong><span style=\"color: black;\">without genealogy<strong>, without beginning of days or end of life,<em>\u00a0<\/em><\/strong><\/span><strong><em><span style=\"color: #4f81bd;\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">like the Son of God <\/span><span style=\"background-color: #f9fdff;\">he remains a priest forever.<\/span><\/span><span style=\"color: #333333;\">\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"color: #4f81bd;\">Heb 7:3<\/span><span style=\"color: #333333;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/em><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><span style=\"color: black;\">This practically answers where he came from and who created Him. Jesus said I and the father are one so if you want to understand God, look at Jesus. He is the Word and\u00a0<strong>the Word was God<\/strong>.\u00a0<em>He was with God in the beginning<\/em>. Through him<strong>all things<\/strong>\u00a0were made;\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"color: #333333; text-decoration: underline;\">without him<\/span><span style=\"color: black;\">\u00a0<strong>nothing<\/strong>\u00a0was made that has been made. John 1:1-3a<\/span><span style=\"color: #333333;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify; background: #f9fdff;\"><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><span style=\"color: black;\">That simply means\u00a0God or His Word ie Jesus have no genealogy, no beginning of days or end. He is the source but he himself has no source (John 1:1 and Rev 1:8). Before there was ever a beginning, God existed. He IS. That&#8217;s why he could tell the Israelites &#8220;I am that I am&#8221;. He created time for humanity. He himself dwells outside of time and space. Before time came into existence, He existed and after time passes away (i.e. eternity) he will still be there.\u00a0This means there is nothing outside of Him.<\/span><span style=\"color: #333333;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify; margin-left: 36pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><span style=\"color: black;\"><span style=\"background-color: white;\">&#8220;I am the Alpha and the Omega,<\/span><\/span><span style=\"color: #333333;\">\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"color: black;\"><em>the<\/em>\u00a0<span style=\"background-color: white;\">Beginning and<\/span><\/span><span style=\"color: #333333;\">\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"color: black;\"><em>the<\/em>\u00a0<span style=\"background-color: white;\">End,&#8221;<\/span>\u00a0<span style=\"background-color: white;\">says the Lord,<\/span><\/span><span style=\"color: #333333;\">\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"color: black;\">&#8220;who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty&#8221; (Rev 1:8).<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify; margin-left: 36pt;\"><span style=\"color: black;\">To say He is the alpha is the same as He telling us that He IS the beginning. The answer to where did he come from is a bit silly because He has never been limited to time and space. He transcends all of that. Put differently, He is the beginning of existence and He is existence.\u00a0<span style=\"background-color: #f9fdff;\">As he Himself said\u2026&#8221;You are my witnesses,&#8221; declares the LORD, &#8220;and my servant whom I have chosen, so that you may know andbelieve me<\/span>\u00a0<span style=\"background-color: #f9fdff;\">and understand that I am he.<\/span>\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"color: red;\">Before me no god was formed, nor will there be one after me<\/span><span style=\"color: #333333;\">\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"color: black;\">(Isa 43:10).<\/span><\/p>\n<h2><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">All that is required is faith and belief that His word is true.<\/span><\/h2>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><span style=\"color: black; background-color: #f9fdff;\">For any person who still seeks insight into this question of the existence of God, if you are truly sincere in your quest for an answer, the solution is to seek God personally and diligently. God is Wisdom. If we seek Him earnestly, we will find Him. The key word is diligence.\u00a0 Bless you all.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><span style=\"color: teal; background-color: #f9fdff;\">Pro 8:17<\/span><span style=\"color: black; background-color: #f9fdff;\">\u00a0 I love those who love me, and\u00a0<strong>those who seek me early and diligently shall find me<\/strong>. [<\/span><span style=\"color: gray; background-color: #f9fdff;\"><em>I Sam. 2:30; Ps. 91:14; John 14:21; James 1:5.<\/em><\/span><span style=\"color: black; background-color: #f9fdff;\">]<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Today, I would like to comment on the question somebody asked. 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